"A man will renounce any pleasures you like but he will not give up his suffering"
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Gurdjieff’s line lands like an insult dressed up as diagnosis: you can pry a person away from their indulgences, but good luck taking their wounds. The provocation is deliberate. He’s not praising endurance; he’s pointing at the sticky, self-protective uses of pain. Pleasure is negotiable because it’s optional, even replaceable. Suffering, by contrast, can become identity, justification, and moral credential all at once. It grants a story: why I failed, why I’m special, why I can’t change, why you should treat me gently, why I’m owed. That story is hard to surrender because it organizes the self.
The intent fits Gurdjieff’s broader project as an educator of “awakening” rather than comfort. His teaching assumes most people run on habit and sleepwalk through their lives. In that framework, clinging to suffering isn’t just masochism; it’s inertia. Pain becomes a familiar room you keep returning to because the alternative is the frightening blankness of responsibility. If you give up suffering, you lose the excuse and the script. You have to act.
The subtext is also aimed at spiritual seekers, the exact audience most likely to romanticize hardship. Renouncing pleasures can be a performance: asceticism as vanity. Renouncing suffering is harder because it requires giving up the payoff of being the injured party, the tragic hero, the perpetually misunderstood. Gurdjieff is warning that people will sacrifice sweets before they sacrifice their self-image, and that real inner work begins where the melodrama ends.
The intent fits Gurdjieff’s broader project as an educator of “awakening” rather than comfort. His teaching assumes most people run on habit and sleepwalk through their lives. In that framework, clinging to suffering isn’t just masochism; it’s inertia. Pain becomes a familiar room you keep returning to because the alternative is the frightening blankness of responsibility. If you give up suffering, you lose the excuse and the script. You have to act.
The subtext is also aimed at spiritual seekers, the exact audience most likely to romanticize hardship. Renouncing pleasures can be a performance: asceticism as vanity. Renouncing suffering is harder because it requires giving up the payoff of being the injured party, the tragic hero, the perpetually misunderstood. Gurdjieff is warning that people will sacrifice sweets before they sacrifice their self-image, and that real inner work begins where the melodrama ends.
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