"Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall"
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Moral logic is supposed to be a tidy elevator: virtue up, vice down. Shakespeare kicks out the cables. "Some rise by sin, and some by virtue fall" is a brutally efficient summary of how power actually moves in his worlds - and, uncomfortably, in ours. It’s not just that wrongdoing sometimes pays. It’s that goodness can be the very thing that makes you easy to sacrifice.
The line lands with the sting of paradox, but it’s less a riddle than a social diagnosis. "Rise" and "fall" are public verbs: status, reputation, survival. Shakespeare is pointing to a system where outcomes are often detached from moral deserving. Sin becomes a skill set - ruthlessness, strategic lying, opportunism - rewarded by institutions that claim to prize honor. Virtue, meanwhile, can read as naivete or inflexibility; the decent person becomes predictable, exploitable, or simply in the way.
Context matters: this comes from Measure for Measure, a play obsessed with hypocrisy, sexual politics, and the gap between law and justice. Vienna’s moral crusade is itself corrupt, run by men who wield purity as a weapon. That’s the subtext: “virtue” isn’t automatically holy; it can be a performance that invites punishment, or a rigid ideal that breaks when tested by real life.
Shakespeare’s intent isn’t nihilism so much as a warning about mistaking moral narrative for moral reality. The line endures because it refuses comfort while staying perfectly speakable - a single couplet-sized grenade lobbed at every sermon about merit.
The line lands with the sting of paradox, but it’s less a riddle than a social diagnosis. "Rise" and "fall" are public verbs: status, reputation, survival. Shakespeare is pointing to a system where outcomes are often detached from moral deserving. Sin becomes a skill set - ruthlessness, strategic lying, opportunism - rewarded by institutions that claim to prize honor. Virtue, meanwhile, can read as naivete or inflexibility; the decent person becomes predictable, exploitable, or simply in the way.
Context matters: this comes from Measure for Measure, a play obsessed with hypocrisy, sexual politics, and the gap between law and justice. Vienna’s moral crusade is itself corrupt, run by men who wield purity as a weapon. That’s the subtext: “virtue” isn’t automatically holy; it can be a performance that invites punishment, or a rigid ideal that breaks when tested by real life.
Shakespeare’s intent isn’t nihilism so much as a warning about mistaking moral narrative for moral reality. The line endures because it refuses comfort while staying perfectly speakable - a single couplet-sized grenade lobbed at every sermon about merit.
Quote Details
| Topic | Ethics & Morality |
|---|---|
| Source | Rejected source: MacBeth: With Introduction, Notes, and Questions for Review (Shakespeare, William, Purcell, F. A. ..., 1916)IA: macbethwithintro0000shak
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